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Back issues
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2009
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March
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- Emo Philips and Robert Plant, 1985
- It has come to this
- Vaselines to tour again
- ‘Little Red Riding Hood’ as infographic video
- ‘Muppetstar Galactica’
- Tadanori Yokoo: ‘The Trip’
- ‘Heaven Must Have Sent You’
- Get your own Sally Jupiter cheesecake print
- Blender pops
- ‘Evacuation and assistance in case of gas poisoning’
- West 24th Street
- ‘How China sees the world’
- Three cheers for Hiro
- Shepard Fairey ‘beautified’ SXSW
- SXSW: The bands unseen
- More awesome than Austin?
- Ninth Avenue
- Four-word reviews from SXSW
- Guitar heroes
- Metallica questions, with mustard
- Happy six years of war in Iraq
- Tadanori Yokoo: Amazing Pop Art posters
- My four words are nothing
- ‘Teddy at the Throttle’
- Carnivorous urge, 1; resolve, 0
- SXSW blog, tweets, and actual articles
- Happy St. Patrick’s Day
- Mr. Polka wants your pierogi vote
- The Dude, in prints
- Hell no, Phil Rudd does not use a click-track
- (1) Visual genius; (2) plot continuity
- Absolute marshmallow perfection
- Street team or nerd tags?
- Who watches ‘The Watchman’?
- ‘Suicide Food’
- Watchmen cupcakes
- Enjoy ‘Watchmen’? Try Goo Goo Dolls!
- ‘Anatomie’
- Torrente!
- Brassfinger
- ‘Where It is Warm and Bright’
- First wonderful surprise of SXSW
- Torrente!
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March
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(Relatively) recent clips
- Josh Ritter profile
- Taking with James Murphy
- Fillmore no more: Irving Plaza un-renamed
- Love for Chris Knox and Jeff Mangum
- V.I.P. concert ticket$$$
- Notorious B.I.G. wrongful death suit dismissed
- Their own private Knitting Factory
- SXSW 2010: Getting that visa; a day of Surfer Blood; four-word reviews; Todd P.’s hopes for MtyMx
- Book review: Bill Flanagan’s ‘Evening’s Empire’
- Holly Miranda profile
- Melvin Van Peebles at 77
- Michael Jackson: The movie (and opening night); the ‘new’ song (and Paul Anka’s share); the tangled estate, part 1 (and part 2); the new Sony deal
- Ticketmaster’s merger with Live Nation, and its FTC settlement
- Whither All Points West?
- The decade when indie-rock atomized
- Interview: Philip Glass and Robert Thurman on Tibet
- Grammys 2010: Preview; live report; Beyoncé, the offend-no-one diva; podcast; the nominations show
- Old people buy music: Sade, Susan Boyle
- Can ‘Idol’ still churn out stars?
- Surprise! Music sales sucked for the year, decade
- In search of Robert Palmer
- Ticketing meets social media; the world of scalpers; the online ticketing ‘free-for-all’
- Jay-Z vs. Sinatra; Jay the pitchman
- Thom Yorke’s new band (and its name)
- Record stores by appointment
- Streisand at the Vanguard
- The ‘Twilight: New Moon’ soundtrack
- When Tom Tomorrow met Pearl Jam
- ‘Favorite Recorded Scream’
- RIP: Ronnie James Dio; Walter Sear; Bob Mercer; Jim Marshall; Mark Linkous; Willie Mitchell; Jay Reatard; Kate McGarrigle; Vic Chesnutt; Bess Lomax Hawes; Mary Travers; Dee Anthony; Brendan Mullen; Suzanne Fiol; Freddy Bienstock; Pierre Cossette; Mike Seeger; Allen Klein; Bob Bogle; Jay Bennett; Estelle Bennett; Lux Interior; John Martyn.
Catalog
- Teenage Fanclub ‘Howdy’ review (2000, NY Press)
- Teenage Fanclub ‘Howdy’ review (2002, Rolling Stone)
- All the year-end stuff (and more)
- Exposed! The real Frank Black
- Dirty Projectors profile
- The tragic life of a Ronette
- The hipster rebranding of Café Bustelo
- Collapse of a jazz empire
- M.I.A. interview
- Al Green interview
- The doughnut/tapas history of Chelsea
- End of the line for Virgin Megastore
- All Points West fights the NY festival curse
- The “Fame ’90” 90
- Did Philip K. Dick rip off the Flash?
- Music in China: A touring market opens
- Music in China: The avant-garde
- Stargate profile
- An interview with me
- Steve Martin vs. Robin Williams: Showdown of failure
- Benigni and Dante
- Benigni full interview
- Terry Callier CD reviews (2000)
- David Johansen interview
- Dark night of Danger Mouse’s contracts
- College radio in the Internet age
- Michael Jackson’s (canceled) Neverland auction
- Taliban can’t silence Haroon Bacha
- ‘Listed’ column
- Coachella 2009
- Man’s Ruin Records (2000)
- Tyranny of the ‘exclusive’
- SXSW 2009: The branding
- SXSW 2009: The baby bands
- 2009 Grammy report
- (Grammy preview)
- Acrassicauda meets Metallica
- Acme No Wave library
- Thurston Moore on No Wave (full interview)
- James Brown’s funeral (2006)
- M.I.A. profile (2007)
- OMG, ‘TRL’ RIP!
- Eight No. 1’s ain’t what they used to be
- Decemberists review (‘The Hazards of Love’)
- Metallica review (‘Death Magnetic’)
- A.R. Rahman profile
- My Morning Jacket feature (2008)
- NYC record store archaeology
- Manowar, Manowar! (2002)
- 32 minutes with Madonna
- Music arrives at McCarren Pool ... (2006)
- ... and leaves McCarren Pool ... (2008)
- ... and goes to the waterfront (2009)
- Neil Diamond interview
- World/Inferno does Peter Lorre
- Knitting Factory to Boise and Brooklyn
- Knit ‘closes’ in Manhattan
- CBGB’s family feud
- CBGB, meet John Varvatos
- Leonard Cohen and Montreal Jazz
- Regina Spektor profile (2004)
- Arcade Fire review (‘Neon Bible’)
- Vampire Weekend review
- Lou Reed interview (‘Berlin,’ 2006)
- Lou Reed interview (photography, also 2006)
- Jennifer Hudson feature
- Bill T. Jones does Fela
- Brooklyn’s weird rock renaissance
- The Bowery Presents profile (2007)
- Neil Young interview (2008)
- ‘Juno,’ Kimya Dawson and indie soundtracks (2008)
- The Postal Service and the (U.S.) Postal Service
- Tom Waits interview (2006)
- Bob Newhart interview (2006)
- Al Green profile (2005)
- ‘Now That’s What I Call Music!’ (2008)
- Rock Hall inducts in Cleveland (2009)
- NYC’s Rock Hall Annex (2008)
- Sosolimited remixes the debates (2008)
- Simon Doonan disses me
- Ben Daniels in ‘Les Liaisons Dangereuses’
- Gogol Bordello profile (2002)
- Noise rock feature (2004)
- Mercury Rev’s brain-wave rock
- Dan Auerbach review
- Suicide closes the Cooler (2001)
- On Lightning Bolt (2001)
- Kasai Allstars review (Congotronics 3)
- Terry Callier profile (1998)
- On the ‘Jack’ radio format (2005)
- On Guided by Voices (2001)
- On John Forté (2002)
- Rappers on steroids?
- Pop music at the DNC (2008)
- Fratellis review
- Foo Fighters review (2007)
- Mary J. Blige review (2007)
- KT Tunstall review (2007)
- Architecture in Helsinki review (2007)
- Thin green line: Errol Morris and documentary ethics
- Brand New review (2006)
- Bill Bragin profile
- Rockin’ & bowlin’ in Willyburg
- Ray LaMontagne review (2006)
- Erik Friedlander interview (2007)
- Tight Bros From Way Back When review (2001)
- Meet the Du-Tels (2001)
- MJ, ‘king of pop’? (2001)
- Rovo review (2001)
- Music from Kyrgyzstan (2001)
- Classic-rock conservatism?
- Webb Brothers review (2001)
- Daughtry, ‘a great pop-radio smash’ (2007)
- Radiohead ‘Amnesiac’ review
- Asylum Street Spankers theater review (2008)
- The Stills review (2003)
- The Stills review (2008)
- Linda Thompson review (2007)
- Nellie McKay review (2007)
- Rufus Wainwright review (2001)
- Mark Eitzel review (2001)
- JJ Grey & Mofro review (2007)
- Outsidaz profile (1999)
- G. Love review (2001)
- Jayhawks review (2003)
- Papa Roach review (2002)
- Sleepy Brown review
- Clem Snide review (2001)
- Adam Green review (2003)
- Broken Social Scene review (2004)
- James Chance box review (2003)
- 120 Days review (2006)
- Jawbreaker review (2002)
- Fugs profile (2003)
- Sly Stone tribute album review
- The Izzys review
- Tom Waits and Crystal Gayle review
- Teairra Marí review
- Sons & Daughters review
- New York Dolls review
- Donald Fagen review
- Now It’s Overhead review
- U.S. Maple review
- Amerie review
- Tom Zé review (2006)
- Gwen Stefani review
- Jet review
- Mos Def review (2004)
- John Cale review (2004)
- Ex Models review (2003)
- Brandy review
- Born Against review
- On Kool Keith (2001)
- Nas review (2004)
- Blur review (2003)
- On Vashti Bunyan (2006)
- Ike & Tina Turner box review
- Sir Lord Baltimore review
- Keane review (2006)
- Shout Out Louds review
- Missy Elliott review
- On 1960s Nikkatsu action films
- Tokyo Police Club review
- Cat Power review (2006)
- John Mellencamp review (2007)
- The Kills review (2008)
- On Animal Collective (2007)
- On the Fall (2006)
- Frames review
- On Psychic Ills
- On Robyn Hitchcock
- ‘Girls Can Tell’ review (1)
- ‘Girls Can Tell’ review (2)
- Spoon profile (2005)
- On Neil Hamburger
- On Nicole Atkins
- Night out with the Mosquitos (2004)
- On Kate Nash
- On Mavis Staples
- Phil Kline profile (2000)
- Polygraph Lounge interview (2002)
- Kyaw Kyaw Naing and Burmese music (2003)
- ‘Bang on a Can Meets Kyaw Kyaw Naing’ review
- Super Furry Animals review
- Rolling Stone Album Guide
- (one review from it: Jamiroquai)
- (another: Nick Cave)
- (another: Kid Koala)
- (another: Chuck D)
- (another: Rob Zombie)
- (another: My Bloody Valentine)
- (another: Teenage Fanclub)
- (another: Bootsy Collins)
- (another: Zero 7)
- (another: Autechre)
- (another: Eleventh Dream Day)
- (another: Foxy Brown)
- (another: Flamin’ Groovies)
- (another: Asian Dub Foundation)
- (another: Mouse on Mars)
- (another: Master P)
- (another: Taj Mahal)
- (another: Insane Clown Posse)
- (another: X)
- James Blunt and blitzkrieg licensing
- On Jim Flora’s LP covers (2004)
- Blender’s ‘Powergeek 25’
- Mulatu, ‘Broken Flowers’ and Ethiojazz (2005)
- On revisionist blues histories (2004)
- Steven Van Zandt interview (2004)
- Tom Verlaine interview (2006)
- Colin Meloy interview (2006)
- Joe Boyd interview (2007)
- Ivan Moravec profile (2001)
- Destiny’s Child review (‘Destiny Fulfilled’)
- Jimmy Sturr, the polka king (2006)
- Hank Williams III review (and response)
- Primus review
- Damian, master of the pan flute
- The Ghetto Film School (2007)
- Hendrix book review
- ‘My Father the Spy’ book review
- Stephen King review (‘Song of Susannah’)
- Anne Rice review (‘Blood Canticle’)
- ‘The Perfect Thing’ (iPod) book review
- ‘Girls’ book review
- More book reviews
- Nick Gold profile (2006)
- Paul Winter profile (2004)
- On Oneida (2001)
- The story of ‘Love to Love You Baby’
- Cheap Seats: Bargains in hard times
- Cheap Seats: Lunchtime concerts
- Cheap Seats: No-cover music
- Cheap Seats: Baseball from the bleachers
- Cheap Seats: Onstage at ‘Spring Awakening’
- Cheap Seats: Standing by for late-night TV
- Cheap Seats: Standing room at the opera
- Cheap Seats: Ticket lotteries on Broadway
- Cheap Seats: The upper deck at Jones Beach
- CBGB’s swan song
- Hilly Kristal, RIP
- Isaac Hayes, RIP
- Johnny Ramone, RIP
- John Peel, RIP
- Eugene Record, RIP
- Arthur Lee, RIP
- Link Wray, RIP
- Martin Denny, RIP
- Klaus Dinger (of Neu!), RIP
- Greg Shaw, RIP
- Hasil Adkins, RIP
- R.L. Burnside, RIP
- Arthur ‘Killer’ Kane, RIP
- Mitch Mitchell, RIP
- Noel Redding, RIP
- Doris Troy, RIP
- Robert Quine, RIP
- Tony Wilson, RIP
- Stanislaw Lem, RIP
- Denny Doherty, RIP
- Compay Segundo, RIP
- Slang Ton, RIP
- Blurbsville
NY Times Popcast
- Feb. 17: Grammys postmortem
- Feb. 10: Grammy preview with Betty Wright
- Feb. 3: Ricky Martin and Totico
- Jan. 27: Wanda Jackson and Destroyer
- —2010 —
- Year-end roundtable: Part 1 (albums), part 2 (singles), part 3 (jazz)
- Dec. 10: Dungen
- Dec. 3: Black Eyed Peas and Arhoolie's 50th
- Nov. 24: Kanye West and boxed sets
- Nov. 18: Aaron Neville
- Nov. 11: Kristin Hersh reading, plus Shyne and Josh Groban
- Nov. 3: Latin Grammys; jazz and Cuba
- Oct. 28: Taylor Swift, Dierks Bentley session
- Oct. 21: Tamaryn session, plus rock globalism (Shakira, Eugene Hutz)
- Oct. 14: Doug Paisley live session
- Oct. 7: Nellie McKay and Bruno Mars
- Sept. 30: Teenage Fanclub live session
- Sept. 23: Listening with Garotas Suecas
- Sept. 16: The VMAs and Sonny Rollins; Marc Ribot solo performance
- Sept. 9: Q&A with the Golden Palominos
- Sept. 2: Marty Stuart, and ‘Bitches Brew’ 40 years later
- Aug. 25: Seattle jazz, and the new Clinic
- Aug. 18: On Katy Perry, and a big early jazz find
- Aug. 11: Perry Farrell interview, and José González's Junip plays live
- Aug. 4: Pareles on Arcade Fire
- July 28: Ricky Skaggs Q&A
- July 21: Critics roundtable on M.I.A., and Best Coast live
- July 14: On Tuli Kupferberg; Camilo Lara of Mexican Institute of Sound
- July 7: Pareles and Caramanica on Miley Cyrus
- June 30: JP and JC on Eminem
- June 23: Grace Potter live session
- June 16: Chief
- June 9: Dave Rawlings Machine, with Gillian Welch
- June 2: Viva last jazz: Steve Lacy
- May 27: Discussion about the Rolling Stones
- May 20: The Black Keys
- May 13: Jonsi
- May 6: Josh Ritter
- April 28: Mary Gauthier
- April 21: The Morning Benders
- April 14: Dave Grusin
- April 7: Richard Bona
- March 31: Justin Bieber roundtable
- March 24: Angélique Kidjo
- March 17: Butch Walker
- Feb. 24: Sam Sadigursky
- Feb. 17: V V Brown
- Feb. 10: Cedric Watson
- Feb. 3: Grammy recap
- Jan. 27: Allison Moorer
- —2009 —
- Year-end critics roundtable: Part 1 (Dec. 23), Part 2 (Jan. 6)
- Dec. 16: Pink Martini
- Nov. 25: Rupa and the April Fishes
- Nov. 18: Alela Diane
- Nov. 11: Carsick Cars and P.K. 14
- Nov. 4: Geoff Muldaur
- Oct. 28: Will Hoge
- Oct. 21: Arms
- Oct. 14: Buffy Sainte-Marie
- Oct. 7: Rain Machine (with Kyp Malone)
- Sept. 30: Reviews, Nik Cohn interview
- Sept. 23: Bebel Gilberto
- Sept. 16: Shilpa Ray
- —Summer vacation—
- July 22: Baaba Maal
- July 15: Jason Lytle
- July 8: Paul Burch
- July 1: On Michael Jackson
- June 24: Chris Potter
- June 17: Kakande
- June 10: The Low Anthem
- June 3: The Tall Pines
- May 20: Diane Birch
- May 13: ‘Afterquake’
- May 6: Marc Ribot
- April 29: Sarah Siskind
- April 22: Bell X1 and Coachella recap
- April 8: Report from the Rock Hall inductions
- April 1: Bob Mould
- March 25: SXSW wrap, with James Hetfield interview
- March 18: Tina Dico
- March 11: Bishop Allen
- March 4: Eleni Mandell
- Feb. 25: Mariza
- Feb. 18: Psapp (interview and studio tour)
- Grammys: Preview (Feb. 4), recap (Feb. 11)
- Jan. 28: Krishna Das
- Jan. 21: Calypso Rose
- Jan. 7: Year-end roundtable, Part 2
- —2008—
- Dec. 24: Year-end critics’ roundtable, Part 1 (plus Kyp Malone interview)
- Dec. 17: Brendan Canning
- Dec. 10: Anne Heaton
- Dec. 3: Kassin +2
- Nov. 26: David Grubbs
- Nov. 19: Ane Brun
- Nov. 12: Jim White
- Nov. 5: Charles Hamilton
- Oct. 29: Jay Reatard
- Oct. 15: Citizens Band
- Oct. 8: Luke Doucet
- Oct. 1: Annuals
- Sept. 24: Julie Fowlis
- Sept. 17: Cory Chisel
- July 30: Jennifer O’Connor
- July 23: Zemog el Gallo Bueno
- July 16: Jay Brannan
- July 9: Reckless Kelly
- July 2: Montreal International Jazz Festival report
- June 25: Miles Benjamin Anthony Robinson
- June 18: Laura Marling
- June 11: Essie Jain
- June 4: Joan as Police Woman
- May 28: The Virgins
- May 21: Eli ‘Paperboy’ Reed
- May 14: Black Kids
- May 7: Atmosphere
- April 30: Tim Fite
WFUV Music Review
- Aug. 24: Eli ‘Paperboy’ Reed
- Aug. 10: Los Lobos
- Aug. 3: Arcade Fire
- June 8: Teenage Fanclub
- May 25: ‘Exile on Main St.’
- Jan. 5: Three favorites of the 2000s
- —2009—
- July 7: Wye Oak
- June 30: Deer Tick
- June 23: Regina Spektor
- June 16: Dinosaur Jr.
- June 9: Wilco
- June 2: Dirty Projectors
- May 26: Grizzly Bear
- May 19: Jason Lytle
- May 12: Ben Harper
- May 5: Bob Dylan
- (April 28: No show)
- April 21: Metric
- April 14: Felice Brothers
- April 7: Bob Mould
- March 31: Great Lake Swimmers
- March 24: Amadou & Mariam
- March 17: Decemberists
- March 10: Neko Case
- March 3: U2
- (Feb. 24: No show)
- Feb. 17: M. Ward
- Feb. 10: Lily Allen
- Feb. 3: The Bird and the Bee
- Jan. 27: Antony and the Johnsons
- Jan. 20: Andrew Bird
- Jan. 13: Derek Trucks
- Jan. 6: Looking ahead to 2009
- —2008—
- Dec. 30: Year-end, Part 2
- Dec. 23: Year-end, Part 1
- Dec. 16: Holiday music
- Dec. 9: Love Train: The Sound of Philadelphia
- Dec. 2: Box sets by Johnny Cash and Nina Simone
- (Nov. 25: No show)
- Nov. 18: Keane, Travis and Snow Patrol
- Nov. 11: John Legend
- Nov. 4: Pretenders
- Oct. 28: Ryan Adams (Cardinology)
- (Oct. 21: No show)
- Oct. 14: Lucinda Williams
- Oct. 7: Jolie Holland
- Sept. 30: TV on the Radio
- Sept. 23: Cold War Kids and Kasai Allstars
- Sept. 16: Emiliana Torrini and Lykke Li
- Sept. 9: Calexico
- (Sept. 2: No show)
- Aug. 26: Randy Newman
- Aug. 19: Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers
- Aug. 12: Jennifer O’Connor
- Aug. 5: Conor Oberst
- July 29: Dennis Wilson reissue
- July 22: Black Kids
- July 15: Paul Weller
- July 8: Beck
- July 1: The Hold Steady
- June 24: Alejandro Escovedo
- June 17: Wolf Parade
- June 10: Coldplay
- June 3: My Morning Jacket
- May 27: Al Green
- May 20: Death Cab for Cutie
- May 13: Elvis Costello
- May 6: Portishead
- April 29: She & Him and Scarlett Johansson
- April 22: Ike Reilly and the Jealous Girlfriends
- April 15: Nick Cave
- (April 8: No show)
- April 1: R.E.M. and the Raconteurs
- March 25: Counting Crows
- March 18: Stephen Malkmus
- March 11: Nine Inch Nails and Devotchka
- March 4: Richard Julian and Jaymay
- Feb. 26: Jim White
- Feb. 19: Nick Lowe reissue, and Sons & Daughters
- Feb. 12: KD Lang
- Feb. 5: Sheryl Crow
- Jan. 29: Joe Jackson and Vampire Weekend
- Jan. 22: Cat Power and Liam Finn
- Jan. 15: Magnetic Fields
- Jan. 8: Kate Nash
- Jan. 1: Looking ahead to 2008
- —2007—
- (Dec. 25: No show)
- Dec. 18: Jesca Hoop, Beirut and Bjork
- Dec. 11: Spoon and Battles
- Dec. 4: Jazz and bluegrass box sets
- Nov. 27: Disaster folk and the Brit Box
- Nov. 20: I’m Not There soundtrack
- Nov. 13: Aretha Franklin
- Nov. 6: Levon Helm and Ween
- Oct. 30: Robert Plant & Alison Krauss and Radiohead
- Oct. 23: Neil Young
- (Oct. 16: No show)
- Oct. 9: Bettye LaVette and Sharon Jones
- Oct. 2: Bruce Springsteen
- Sept. 25: Iron & Wine and José González
- Sept. 18: Nellie McKay and KT Tunstall
- Sept. 11: Joe Henry and Wattstax
- Sept. 4: Rilo Kiley
- Aug. 28: Ben Harper and the New Pornographers
- Aug. 21: Josh Ritter
- Aug. 14: Linda Thompson
- Aug. 7: Jesse Harris
- July 31: Nicole Atkins and They Might Be Giants
- July 24: Teddy Thompson and Prince
- July 17: The Magic Numbers and St. Vincent
- July 10: Spoon and Crowded House
- July 3: Ryan Adams (Easy Tiger)
- June 26: Bryan Ferry and Nick Lowe
- June 19: White Stripes, Polyphonic Spree and Nick Drake
- June 12: John Doe, Darfur benefit and Bonde do Rôle
- June 5: Betty Davis reissues
- May 29: Richard Thompson
Photo: jeffwinterberg.com. Used by permission.
Contents herein © Ben Sisario except when owned by somebody else.
7 comments:
Oh. My. God.
Classic photo!
Hahah.. love it!
That is mad, who would have thought it.
Emo Phillips is a legend, but not having heard of Led Zepplin?? That's criminal!
And the beat goes on, cool picture!
Great picture, too right it's a crime though!
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